Using Risk to Build Security.
Using Risk to Build Security with Drew Yerger | The Executive Hustle Podcast
In this episode of The Executive Hustle Podcast, I explore the journey of creation and security with my guest Drew Yerger, managing partner at Legacy Partners Wealth Management. Drew shares his journey from aspiring farmer to wealth management maven. Through early influences of his father's entrepreneurial pivot and a summer mentor named Jim, Drew developed a love for process and helping others navigate uncertainty. Now a marathon runner and financial advisor, he brings a refreshingly human touch to an industry often perceived as impersonal. Drew shares his core philosophy and the conversation reveals how his childhood dreams of farming weren't so far off - he's still nurturing growth, just in a different field.
DREW YERGER’S BIO: Drew Yerger, Managing Partner at Legacy Partners Wealth Management, brings over 15 years of expertise in multigenerational wealth management and financial planning. A Certified Family Business Specialist and Accredited Investment Fiduciary, Drew focuses on guiding clients through complex financial decisions with clarity and purpose. Beyond his role as a trusted advisor, he serves on the Harrisburg Area YMCA Board and is an accomplished marathon runner, enjoys many sports with his three boys and wife and exploring life in the country.
Drew Yerger CFBS, AIF® is a registered representative of and offers securities, investment advisory, and financial planning services through MML Investors Services, LLC, Member SIPC, 100 Sterling Parkway, Suite 307, Mechanicsburg, PA 17050, Tel: 717-791-3300. CRN202712-7512871
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@6:38 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Welcome to another episode of the executive hustle. Our guest today is Drew Yerger, managing partner at Legacy Partners, World Management, and Marathon Runner, excited to get into that a little bit.
Drew, it is a delight to have you if people could see us. We are having big smiles on our faces because it is always a time when I get to have a conversation with you.
Drew, I have known you over 15 years, I think.
@7:25 - Drew
It has been a poke. It is an essential P.A.
@7:30 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
We don't want to age ourselves here. This is going to be a lot of fun. Tell me, what was seven-year-old Drew dreaming of being?
@7:43 - Drew
A farmer. wanted to be a farmer or a veterinarian, something like that. I think, I think, like, number five was seven.
Yeah. I think that was the deal. That was the ticket.
@7:59 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Well. I know you. I know you just bought a farm. Which is not by the farm, but bought a farm.
@8:00 - Drew
Well, that would be a bummer for the podcast. think Well, least for I think I would go to the Podcast from beyond I would be viral by now.
Well, it'd be impressive. Yeah, it'd be more about Like those adventures. Yeah
@8:27 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
So you want a farmer. Why is that?
@8:29 - Drew
Um, I like I like the I like the process Of it all I think in reflecting back to my seven year old self.
Um, thought that was that was pretty cool You got to involve yourself a lot of different things um and and ultimately You know Provide I think is really what I came down to.
@8:53 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Okay.
@8:54 - Drew
Um, or or on the veterinary side I think that was a bit of a hybrid there. Well, animals are cool
Take care of them too, then you know, you get a little older and realize maybe you want kids and family and You know So how did we get from I mean, know we're gonna talk about other things, but how did you get from?
from veterinary to wealth management and Where you are today, which is pretty exciting well Just like, you know, so many people everybody's got their own You know path and journey and you know pivot moments and You're looking to rearview mirror.
You never think about it in the moment, you know, you have to look at it in the rearview mirror Say, oh, know what that really was something.
So it's a great question So I think the pivot for me Happened probably when I was like, don't know Kind of younger, I guess like maybe 14 or 15 Two things were going on my brothers had already gone to college
My dad, who was a, both my parents, date employees, you know, everything was fairly black and white in my brain, at least, on, well, dad go to work to come home and that's that's that.
@10:16 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Didn't know.
@10:17 - Drew
Yep. And, you know, it was interesting, my dad wanted to get into college planning. So, he kind of just, he created this, this entity and, and he would provide, you know, coaching in the evenings at like, you know, one of those evening, adult learning session types of things, you know, in the local school district.
And I thought that was really neat, where he was just kind of going out and he was helping people wade through the muck of, of, you know, life, he had already been through it, my brother just went through college and why not see, you know what, this is actually,
And this is actually pretty interesting. So he was able to turn that into a bit of a business. And I know that his eyes lit up any time we're talking about the market, so that kind of exposed me to what is this market, what does it do, and why is saving important, and why is it good to plan, and what kind of impact can that have, and that's kind of how that led into it.
So not exactly crazy there, but also there was another fellow who, over the summers, every summer, it was about, hey, school, all right, so school's going to wrap up.
It's June. This is awesome. right. What are we doing over the summer? let's see. We got YMCA day camp, but kind of aged out of that, and then it was, all right, I guess need to work.
So, that was, again, mom and dad, hey, you're going to work, you're going to work and in fact there's this guy, you can ride your bike to both work and to his house and you just do whatever he asks you to do.
And this guy, I was like, man, this guy has it all together. I'm just going over here and he's giving me cash, this is awesome.
And he was just an entrepreneur and he learned what that word meant through both my dad doing this and through this gentleman's business and just kind of really loved his, you know, his perspective.
I think that was a really cool time to just kind of learn his name with Jim and he was like, hey, you want to help me with this business?
I'm like, yeah, sure, why not? All right, well, great. Let's do this. Let's start a website. Let's, you know, let's.
get it rolling. It was such an opposite end of the spectrum from what I grew up being used to, which was just you wake up, you go to work, you come back annually dinner, you put a bed, which was very safe and secure, as opposed to this very intriguing proposition of, oh yeah, you want to start a business, just go for it.
Just make it happen, make it just get it done.
@13:28 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
A complete yes and mentality.
@13:30 - Drew
Yeah, and that was really intriguing to me. And I think that, to go back to your original question, was really what was driving the foundation or the seeds, if you will, to grow into what is currently going on in my world.
And how I then translated it. that into a handful of folks that I work with on a professional basis and really where we are today.
@14:09 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah. Wow. So what an interesting story in terms of where you wanted to start, where you've ended, the people that have impacted you, but still there's these threads of your dad had something very consistent, but you saw him explore something different and you saw that impact on him.
@14:32 - Drew
Yeah.
@14:33 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
So that really seemed to touch you and you said yes to an opportunity with Jim over the summer and his approach to life being so different from your father's and that impacting you.
@14:49 - Drew
Definitely. Definitely. Wow.
@14:52 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
How do both of these pivotal moments still show up and how you lead today? mean, decades later, these seem so meaningful to you.
How's it showing up as you lead? Because leading right now and certainly in your industry, right, the financial industry, things are uncertain.
We won't even get into what's going on in our overall environment. And if anyone's waiting around for stock tips, you're not getting them.
@15:22 - Drew
So click out now.
@15:26 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
leading in this climate of uncertainty, how do these experiences shape you and prepare you for that?
@15:34 - Drew
Yeah, so just as a fundamental, you know, or a core, if you will, it comes back to oddly enough, people like security.
And when you also take that together with any kind of, you know, planning topic or goal oriented, anything. There's a level of risk involved in it, so it's interesting.
So in financial planning, there's an inherent risk and reward sector, of course, right? And then there's also, I want the risk and reward, rather I may need it, because I want security.
So it's just like this debacle of...
@16:22 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
The juxtaposition.
@16:24 - Drew
is hot and cold all day long. And I think walking people through that, and this would be like an individual, or walking someone through that transcends down to the leadership aspect of life.
And I mean, I don't know that I would necessarily call myself a leader per se, but I definitely can see aspects of what I was trying
mentioning there what we're talking about there with with the team the internal team and it's interesting because it's it doesn't change it's like so human that with with any decision with any uh you know pivot point along the way you're going to have these stressors like um like anything like you could go as far as to say you know like whenever you're uh you know figuring out where you're going to go to dinner what there's like a rock paper precision process in our family where okay we're um we're going to do rock paper scissors maybe it's sort of you know the kids or or or messy and okay and then if you feel a little let down one way the other then you're like okay well we should have just gone to the other place so that's how we kind of decide but it it's almost like looking at like a risk tolerance for four things so it's it's interesting and again just because i'm in it every day
the gallop on risk tolerances and whatnot. But I think like, life in and of itself has its own risk tolerance.
Some are more prone or accepting of risk than others. And no matter what, everybody still wants, you know, security and the ability to shut it off and, you know, to balance all of those pieces out.
And then again, you've got all of those other free radicals going on as well with, you know, okay, kids are sick or, you know, there's a health concern or, you know, and that, it's so ubiquitous across the board, you know, whether it's in financial planning or if it's just, you know, not in financial planning, everybody goes through this stuff, but it triggers back to the money, ultimately, sometimes.
@18:53 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah. How do you define the impact that you make? The end of the day.
@19:00 - Drew
I think the impact is it's interesting so I think it's giving somebody a sense of security in an insecure chapter and I say chapter because you could argue that almost every chapter has its own vulnerability or percentage of honorability and it only takes one little x y or z to trip something up in any instance and this is regardless of your level of anxiety but the intention or my intention and this is regardless of what I'm talking with you know talking about a client or talking with you know a fellow board member person or talking with staff team our team
Awesome, and you know, there are there are there are moments whether you're in any of those categories where I want to make sure that I'm available for them and They have confidence in asking the question.
think that's one of the biggest the vision biggest measurements for me And that's probably some sort of a validation thing.
would assume is that like if I'm getting asked a question That to me is is it is a Means means I'm doing something right like So If you're not if you're not getting asked the question then, you know, maybe maybe we're not the right spot It's kind of what goes through my brain But yeah, I think
That's, that's what I shoot for is like, if I'm being asked the questions, that means I can put a fire out for somebody and that's, that's a win.
@21:10 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
So you're seeking engagement. You really want people reaching out to you and looking for partnership.
@21:18 - Drew
Yeah, I think so. I think, I think that's my, you know, just like everybody said, has the need to be needed.
And I think that's my, my fastball is being able to, you know, flip into go, go mode. You know, regardless of the level of the challenge, right, like somebody needs something like let's, let's make it happen.
@21:43 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah. You've been in this industry for how long would you say?
@21:48 - Drew
Uh, 15 years.
@21:51 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Okay.
@21:52 - Drew
Yeah.
@21:53 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
What's still sparked your curiosity after all these years?
@21:58 - Drew
Um, yeah, it's an interesting. in question. I think it's almost like you're on a road that you never know where the next turn is, right?
So that always keeps things interesting. So the market is kind of all over the place. There's always something unique or something going on that adds to that risk profile or opportunity profile for someone.
The amount of data that's out there is never ending. So you kind of have to pick and choose and curate where you want to get that information and then distill it down into these adjustable spoonfuls.
So whenever you're meeting with someone or your constructing strategy with your team, it all rolls together. So I think spending time on the business has really been most recent.
like the biggest, I think, payoff and recognizing that it's okay to spend time on the business because that ultimately means it's going to be better, you know, a better main course, if you will, from a client standpoint.
And also takes a lot of frustration or possibly, you know, from, you know, away from, you know, the staffing side too.
You know, so like our team, you know, trying to figure out like over the last call, 18 months, we've really done a big deep dive in on understanding what our core values are.
And I can't underscore italicize bold enough that doing that together as a team was so, so wonderful. Because it's not, it's not a, um, and, you know, uh, sometimes it,
people have talked with me and you know I've mentioned like hey this is this is your world I'm living in it kind of a thing and I don't know how much more I can possibly mean something but that's how I want that to be viewed you know this is this is I'm just right inside card you know with you we need to take a left I'll let you know kind of a thing as best I can.
@24:24 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
What do you think the impact of having those core values will be for your company in two years five years?
@24:31 - Drew
Oh yeah so I mean to me core values like being able to like any time we've got a bigger decision that we need to be making you know whether it's a you know a higher or a move or a you know an expansion or a merge etc.
We've already kind of seen that within the last you know six months even that going back to that and looking at the process that's baked into those core values just it helps steer.
everything. And it's liberating, right? Like I think that's the biggest thing. It's like having these core values is liberating because you've almost taken the thinking out of it by thinking about it.
@25:12 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Ah, okay.
@25:14 - Drew
Right. So I think that's the biggest takeaway for me.
@25:19 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah. So it kind of gives you an anchor point to come back to when you've got big decisions, like we already know how to make this decision because we've already decided what the values are for the company, which means we know how to make a decision because we've determined what's important.
So the statement we're facing tomorrow, we can come back to these things we thought of yesterday.
@25:41 - Drew
Yep, exactly. Yeah. It's almost like you're building the tool belt and you know where everything is along the way.
say, oh yeah, I've got just the thing, it's right here.
@25:52 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
when we talk about this is what kind of a decision we make because it helps Yeah. X, Y, Z.
@25:59 - Drew
Right, right, right. It's it easy.
@26:00 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah, an emotional one of the values that is important to me for leaders to really embody and illustrate and model or their teams.
I want to share and I want to ask your question about because I think it probably is pretty challenging in your industry.
So I kind of want to see what you have to say about it. And that values vulnerability. And so I'm kind of curious like how in an industry that that emphasizes competence and certainty.
So we've talked about certainty a few times, right? Or security. is their space? Have you found space or do you find this really challenging?
where is their space for vulnerability as a leader in your industry?
@26:47 - Drew
Yeah, I can say that's a that's a ridiculously good question. Is there any other, you know, financial folks listening to this?
I think they might get a little chuckle out of it. Yeah, because like, You're kind of baked, if you will, to never be vulnerable to a degree, but I disagree with that and I think that people just want to be working with people and like, yeah, you want to assert confidence, but also at the same time, you want to be real with somebody.
And I would much rather just be real with someone than assert any kind of confidence that's not actually there.
So I think that the vulnerability aspect of it is almost like you want to be able to talk as if you're talking to your best friend, whereas
just kind of like, yeah, but like, how do you, know, just like getting into them and new shop stuff.
I love working with folks at that level where like, you're, you know, you hear so much, you hear so many things, and you help them through that.
And I imagine, you know, it's very similar to your work in that you get into the details stuff, you know, and it's not, you know, maybe an eighth of what you're talking about for my world is actually numbers, right?
And a lot of it is more about like, well, you know, how does, how do the numbers translate to these 10 other things?
And how do we make these 10 other things actually happen? And walking through that, through the process of that.
then the fruit of that is, again, rearview mirror, seeing it come to light, say, Hey, you know what? that worked out.
So the vulnerable part of it, I think, is I just think that pays dividends. just think that that is so incredibly helpful to just, know, if you say the word level with someone or whatever, but like I think, you know, rolling of it, you are what you are and that's what people want to see anyways.
So you've certainly helped a lot with that through this, the fun, the fun of life for the last handful of years and just kind of walking through some of, you know, business challenges and, you know, the metrics, if you will, of all things, and navigating
I don't know, way that that doesn't still a level of confidence, but backs it into a very transparent way of communicating with people, which is just, hey, I am what I am, and you are what you are.
And that's great. Now, we can talk. Let's, let's get, you know, a solution, or let's, let's walk through this thing together.
@30:22 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
And I got you. It's a great way of putting it. seems to me like to do what you need to do with the numbers, as you're saying, you need to get people to be honest with you about what's important, what they care about, what they want to achieve their hopes and dreams, their fears.
how do you do that if you yourself are not present, real, open, right? are not going to share their most valuable feelings with you.
So, if you're, you know, a suit, right? an infallible, never wrong, you know, unfeeling sort of the book person.
couldn't see myself coming in and be like, this is what I want to achieve, this is what I'm afraid of, right?
want people to come in and see a person.
@31:17 - Drew
Right. Yeah. I think I back it into the industry side of things. It's interesting because there's a lot of studies out there about, you know, uh, technology stepping in and, you know, taking, uh, taking business away from, you know, the, it's the industry and whatever else.
And I think, I think that I think everything just has a time and a place for that. But I think that, uh, there will always be a human aspect of it, um, that you just, you're just not going to be able to get, um, of talking with somebody.
@31:55 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah. Yeah. That, that was definitely one of my questions is What do you see next? what do you see coming down the pike?
as you say, working on the business part, that's looking around corners.
@32:07 - Drew
Yeah.
@32:08 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
need to be prepared. You as Drew, in your role, you at the company, what's next?
@32:14 - Drew
Yeah, so what we're working on, and really what we have developing, is really just a bigger, better, deep dive on simple things, like beneficiaries, like how exciting.
@32:34 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Right? Yeah.
@32:36 - Drew
Not exciting.
@32:37 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
honest.
@32:37 - Drew
Way to be honest. But, you know, it's something that a lot of folks just don't do. And I think that just, like, that's a glimmer, right?
Like, you know, any aspect of the estate planning process, and, you know, working with various professionals, you know, together.
or in coordinating that together, is really something that people just don't necessarily love to do, but they love to work with people that do it for them, and help get it.
So that's what I think, I think that's where things are more or less headed. And you know, there's a lot to say about dollars exchanging, know, and then hand full the next, you know, call it 20 years or so.
And I think that there's a lot of really good planning opportunities that almost anyone could do, given some of the latest and greatest in tax code, et cetera.
But I think, you know, working with those professionals, whether it's an accountant or an attorney or your, you know, your
visor, financial visor, those are just really things that I think need to be happening for folks. I think the conviction that I've got with it, I think, is backed up by just the type of work that I think needs to be accomplished for people to step back into and give people that security and confidence in their futures.
@34:30 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
And so that enhanced coordination is really something that you're doing a deep dive on to provide.
@34:36 - Drew
Yeah, I think that's the objective. think if you can get there, you really, from my side of the world, you've really accomplished something for people.
@34:53 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah.
@34:54 - Drew
Because you're not just looking out for them, you're looking out for their next you know, the next generation and and and also again, you're kind of baking that into you know that that whole That story, you know, we're here for a moment You know, and it's not like everybody and their brother wants to leave a legacy per se, right?
But I think it is interesting to open up that Discussion and and have people I think that's a pretty pretty great conversation I have with with almost anyone because Everybody everybody thinks about it, but they don't necessarily know what or how they want to have an impact with it Just they haven't you know thought about it that much sometimes so We often are stuck in conversations that are What's wrong?
@35:55 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
What needs fixed? What's right in front? And you know, there's a world that opens up when you ask questions like, what do you want to create?
@36:06 - Drew
Yeah.
@36:07 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
And that's the question you're asking.
@36:09 - Drew
Yeah. And that would be, that's an interesting one. It's almost, you know, if you're, you're a business owner type person, you've been creating your entire life.
Even if you're, you're not a business owner type person, you've been building your career et cetera. And it's kind of like, you know, what, what for?
What, what was the objective? It's like you were asking me, just like you asked others on your podcast, you know, where did it start?
You know, what's, what's driving this? And it's, it's a really interesting spring to pool because you get so many more nuggets out of that, meaning just ingredients to have better conversation and, and help move the ball.
@37:00 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
for them.
@37:01 - Drew
And I think that that's, again, ubiquitous. That's a that's across the board from, I guess, a leadership standpoint is just asking those questions.
Just getting really good at asking those types of questions.
@37:15 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah, getting out of the normal conversation and getting people to think about future, we don't spend less than like 2% of our conversations in future conversations.
We're always talking about past, maybe present, but the future just doesn't come into our conversation. And those are the transformative conversations.
Those are the generative conversations. They're the ones that people walk away feeling like, wow, that was awesome.
@37:43 - Drew
Yeah, and they continue those conversations into their sticky. So like, it's a very, it's not, you know, it's just a sticky, sticky subject.
And if you can uncover those, you know, that's the relationship building stuff that I think is huge. And, you know, it's just real quick thinking about motivation, I think, motivation or encouragement or encouragement versus motivation, what was there, that there's a Harvard business review study that I was talking about, okay, encouragement isn't exactly the best thing for motivation necessarily, I'm sure I'm misquoting that horribly, end of the day, it's much more impactful to ask these types of questions and show meaning and bake in and remind and get back to effectively core values again on, you know, the why, the why, the who, and I think that's a very good filter or lens to look through.
Almost in any topic.
@39:01 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah, it builds that perspective in any situation. I Love that and it is gonna resonate and I'm gonna use it to jump topics perfect because You could not give me enough encouragement to run Running and you run marathon.
So tell me What motivates you? To run a marathon and how did you ever get into it and what how do you keep doing it?
Because you couldn't pay me enough.
@39:36 - Drew
Yeah, so fun story 2016 I was introduced to this guy just started in our office me Nick great, dude one of my best friends and And again Back in 2016 didn't
I know him from Adam. was just like, all right, well, you know, introduce myself, et cetera. He was down in like the Philly area, Philly office, bouncing back and forth between, you know, central PA Philly back and forth.
And, you know, got to know him a little bit. He was, you know, running a lot. And I was like, Hey, you know, I'll go for, I'll go for a run with you.
He was asking like, Hey, you want to go for a run? like, Sure, you know, we, we really, you know, talking about cars, a bunch of, a bunch of fun stuff, just nonsense, go whatever.
And we just started running. We were like, all right, hey, you want to run the Philly marathon? Sure. Let's do it.
As almost like a joke, right there, but that yeah, right there. Yeah, it was never, it was, it was never like a goal.
mean, it was after we said we'd do it, and then we hold ourselves accountable, because if we didn't run.
We had to shave our heads, and at the time, and I still struggle with this at the moment, you know, like hair tends to get thinner and recede bit.
So it was a bit of a personal thing that we made sure we continued to run, and we hold ourselves accountable to get it knocked out all at the same time.
Nick's dad had passed away from cancer in the past, and my dad was diagnosed with lung cancer. So that was an interesting moment where somebody comes in for life that I'm incredibly thankful for, you know, during that trend that we'll call it life transition with my dad.
Yeah, you know, and, you know, that Missy is in a bit of a transition career work. wise. That's my wife for listeners.
She's a thousand times smarter than I ever will be or claim to be. And, you know, she, her background's in engineering and, and it was interesting kind of walking through that with, with her, like my dad's stuff.
But she encouraged the running, right?
@42:21 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Because it was just kind of like think time.
@42:23 - Drew
Yeah, that's, that's really what that, that really became, you know, with the boys running around at that time. You know, I think they were four and six at that time.
So, but yeah, so four, four marathons down, got another one coming up in a couple weeks, I guess. So running, and again, just kind of using the time to think, um, to download still, I don't know how many epiphanies I've stumbled across, you know,
once you get to like 15, 17, 18, 20 miles on a run on a random Saturday morning with nobody around you and you're like, huh, you know, so that that time is incredibly, um, it's, it's a, it's a bit of a sanctuary.
But also to your point, I don't, I wouldn't consider myself, I don't like love running. I think I love, I love to be where I am when I'm running, if that makes sense.
Just because I think that that unlocks a lot of, you know, think time. a good thing.
@43:40 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah. Well, you're forcing yourself into that position and otherwise you wouldn't be there and get those benefits.
@43:46 - Drew
Yeah. it's so, it's so important to make sure that you find time to do that and you find something to do in order to get that space.
Because if, if you don't, it just, you know, it just keeps binding. out and binding up, and it's like you're chasing your tail.
So, you know, whether it's anything outside, I think is a good thing. Just get outside. You know, I think that's the big thing.
I'm telling the boys at the moment. just great. You're born excellent. Get outside.
@44:19 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Figure it out. Well, now you have the farm for them to get on.
@44:23 - Drew
Yeah, go.
@44:23 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah, dig some dirt.
@44:27 - Drew
Go to your whole time. Yeah, whatever.
@44:31 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Guess what?
@44:32 - Drew
on, you can fill it in.
@44:33 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah, That's all that works. It works. know, what's interesting with the running is, it's again, in a couple of things you said, like I keep seeing this process showing up, right?
You started with liking the process from farming.
@44:49 - Drew
where we started.
@44:51 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
I see process showing up several times in terms of like, look, we're doing a deep dive. We're going to go.
Now, we're going to double down on some of the simple stuff, but it's process, right? going to have a process for delivering the value.
going to have process for our core values. marathon seems like the running is a process for you to get your mind into a place where it needs to be so that you have the outcomes as a leader that you need.
I just keep seeing the theme.
@45:22 - Drew
Yeah, I think I might be learning some things about myself just from the podcast.
@45:26 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah, at that. See what you're doing. Amazing. Yeah. Well, Drew, this has just been a great, great conversation today.
I'm just so thankful that you had time for coming on and sharing both your story, your lessons and your, your vulnerability for us today.
know, I really, I took away several things I'll just share again. You know, the process piece was just a theme for you to take away.
I really see that in your story coming up multiple times. I love the inflection points with the dad with Jim, you know, and how you went from seeing somebody that just had this, and I grew up, you know, my mom was a civil servant, you know, you went to work, you came home, it was so formulaic, but then you had this other opportunity to see this kind of yes and mentor and how that really, I see that in your personality, like, hey, we'll do that?
Yeah, let's do it, let's do it, let's do it, like this is just, you know, has really touched your life, whether you know it or not, I can see it totally.
Leading in the uncertainty, you know, and the impact you have to make, you have to help people get comfortable with the risk because they want security.
I just love the way you said that, and if you don't have a tagline, you might want to consider that for your next example.
Yeah, you know, many leaders, we talk about core values, it's just great to hear making decisions on them, so another.
you know, just a great vote for organizations and leaders to evaluate what's important to them, document them, and to be making decisions on them, and just knowing your impact, right, having those future conversations with people, getting them out of the present, asking them what's important to them, what is the legacy that they want to lead, and that's not going to get replaced by an AI.
That is always going to be that human connection that you have, and it's going to start with you being vulnerable.
It's really, really great stuff.
@47:34 - Drew
Well, thank you very much. Thanks for asking, and, you know, look forward to future conversations.
@47:43 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Yeah. If people want to find you, if they want to find legacy partners, how can they do that?
@47:49 - Drew
Well, they can Google us. It's probably the easiest thing to do. Legacy partners, wealth management, and mechanic's burden. And you'll see Tony Feliciano and myself.
@48:06 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Great.
@48:07 - Drew
That's it.
@48:08 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Okay. And we'll have links to all of that. great. Well, thank you, has been wonderful today. Appreciate And I hope folks take away just as much as I did because it was awesome.
@48:21 - Drew
Thank you.
@48:21 - Kirsten Yurich (kirstenklyurich@gmail.com)
Appreciate it. All right. Take care.
@48:23 - Drew
Bye bye.